From: usotsuki@buric.co (Steve Nickolas)
Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 21:25:12 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1702212122510.32238@frieza.hoshinet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W5fRdTfUWM3gMs6oxYQdjGnPu3p8ipD-jQZbrNseEEHQw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Dan Cross wrote:
> If I may, I think there was an additional thing at play: Linux was
> essentially Unix.
>
> Linux "won" because people wanted low-cost or free (as in gratis) Unix with
> source that could run on modest commodity hardware, and Unix wasn't
> available at a price point that was reasonable for most individuals
> (certainly not with source). The people working on successor systems
> weren't trying to reinvent Unix: they were working on new systems that
> weren't Unix, but that's not what people wanted: Unix was good enough and
> people were familiar and comfortable with it and that's what they wanted.
> So Linux comes along and it's basically a "simplest possible solution"
> Unix, freely available, runs on a PC, comes with source, and wasn't mired
> in a lawsuit brought by a major US company. It was the right thing in the
> right place at the right time.
>
> I think there's a network effect that blinds a lot of folks to this
> reality. Most of the folks on this list had access to Unix source and, with
> no disrespect intended, it's easy to lose sight of what a big deal that
> was. But unless you were in a position to already have access to it, it was
> remarkably difficult to come by. Linux filled a gap that a lot of people
> were looking to have filled.
>
> - Dan C.
>
I started screwing around with Linux in the late 90s, and it would be many
years before any sort of real Unix (of the AT&T variety), in any form, was
readily available to me - that being Solaris when Sun started offering it
for free download.
-uso.
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-21 12:02 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 12:24 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-21 12:57 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-21 15:02 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:50 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 2:25 ` Steve Nickolas [this message]
2017-02-22 3:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 4:07 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 4:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-23 15:31 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 16:00 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23 16:50 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 22:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:30 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-24 20:54 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:01 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-22 10:16 ` jsteve
2017-02-21 15:15 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-21 16:47 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 18:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 19:21 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 20:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 20:28 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 20:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 22:58 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-22 1:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:35 ` [TUHS] Sun NFS version 2.0 Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 1:46 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 13:33 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-23 23:48 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-24 7:47 ` arnold
2017-02-22 2:07 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-22 13:25 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 3:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:43 ` arnold
2017-02-24 20:57 ` Warren Toomey
2017-02-24 22:09 ` Warren Toomey
2017-02-26 10:50 ` Josh Good
2017-02-22 9:00 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-22 0:52 ` Andy Kosela
2017-02-22 1:04 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 1:33 ` jason-tuhs
2017-02-22 3:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 3:45 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 4:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 4:11 ` Larry McVoy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-26 18:33 Norman Wilson
2017-02-28 20:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-22 3:51 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 1:22 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 3:08 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 21:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 23:10 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-21 23:14 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-21 16:25 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 4:16 Doug McIlroy
2017-02-20 6:38 Rudi Blom
2017-02-19 5:48 Jason Stevens
2017-02-17 16:55 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-17 20:04 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 15:47 Atindra Chaturvedi
2017-02-16 7:28 [TUHS] Mushi and Bagu Rudi Blom
2017-02-16 9:36 ` jsteve
2017-02-16 10:42 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-16 13:49 ` Rudi Blom
2017-02-17 11:30 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-17 14:22 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 16:13 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-17 14:29 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 17:23 ` Warner Losh
2017-02-18 22:25 ` Nemo
2017-02-19 6:20 ` jsteve
2017-02-19 7:01 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-19 13:46 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-19 15:44 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 18:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-20 22:24 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:16 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:25 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:20 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 0:12 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-21 1:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 10:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 13:47 ` Random832
2017-02-21 15:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 15:54 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2017-02-21 16:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 16:48 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 16:32 ` Random832
2017-02-21 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 19:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 21:37 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:57 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 9:56 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-22 10:26 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 10:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-19 21:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 0:29 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-20 1:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 1:29 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-19 22:59 ` Derek Fawcus
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