From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: usotsuki@buric.co (Steve Nickolas) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 03:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Dennis Ritchie! In-Reply-To: <20170916034032.GO3272@mcvoy.com> References: <201709100944.v8A9iPeb024293@freefriends.org> <20170914161121.sx7eqzsqklzcncdb@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20170914193905.GD25914@wopr> <20170914213535.4ptpo7jtaem6x5tf@thunk.org> <20170916034032.GO3272@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 05:35:35PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:39:05PM -0700, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:15:32PM -0400, Steve Nickolas wrote: >>>> >>>> Isn't that pretty much just Lennart Poettering and his fan club? >>>> >>> >>> It's right there in the name "GNU" as well. There's a whole generation >>> of computer people out here for whom bash and gawk are fossilized in >>> their substrata, and they get mad when someone suggests maybe other >>> tools exist. >> >> The use of "GNU" as in "GNU/Linux" is something that was pushed by >> Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, and actively abosed, or >> mostly ignored by the majority of the Linux community. > > As well it should be. My colors are showing here, but I'm really sick > of the FSF slapping their name on other people's work. If Stallman > wants it to be called GNU/Linux let him write a kernel. He didn't, > he can't, yet he wants credit. I got pretty disgusted back in the day > when everything that was GPLed suddenly became a GNU project. The GNU > guys have written very, very little code. > > They are all about the license, which is fine, but I get off the bus > when they are claiming credit for work they did not do. > The GNU Project has a kernel, The HURD, but iirc, it's still as unusable now as it has been for decades. Which is why Linux wound up being the de-facto kernel of the GNU system, even while The HURD is still their official kernel. -uso.