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From: usotsuki@buric.co (Steve Nickolas)
Subject: [TUHS] Windows roots and Unix influence (was Re: Happy birthday, Ken Thompson!)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 19:37:21 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1802051935550.42701@frieza.hoshinet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180205211923.GO13685@h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se>

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, Michael Kjörling wrote:

> Honestly, I think you've got the timeline mixed up. Wikipedia puts the
> Xbox introduction in 2001, which sounds about right to me. Designing
> the core of the original Windows NT would be about a decade before
> that, maybe a little earlier still, around 1990-ish. Around 1990 in
> terms of game consoles was the Super Nintendo and Sega Mega Drive
> (A.K.A. Sega Genesis), which the original Xbox was definitely _not_
> contemporary with. I _think_ (but could certainly be mistaken about
> this) that Windows 2000 ("NT 5") was the release that dropped several
> non-Intel architectures; I'm _almost_ certain that NT 4 shipped with a
> bunch of versions on the same installation CD, and believe that those
> included both PowerPC and Alpha.

Pretty sure at least PPC was supported by NT4, but don't quote me.

> Also, I think the original NT "personality modules" included OS/2 (but
> without Presentation Manager, the OS/2 GUI, so it only supported
> text-mode OS/2 applications). The way I recall it, the OS/2 module was
> a first-class citizen in NT 3.x, relegated to second-class citizen
> status in NT 4.0 (it was there, but you had to jump through some hoops
> to get it installed), and dropped with 5.0/2000.

3.51 and 4.0, at least, both had a paid add-on for PM application support.

-uso.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-06  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-04  0:37 Dan Cross
2018-02-04  2:59 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-04  5:06   ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04  5:18     ` Warner Losh
2018-02-05 19:43     ` Paul Winalski
2018-02-05 21:19       ` Michael Kjörling
2018-02-06  0:37         ` Steve Nickolas [this message]
2018-02-06  0:45           ` Warner Losh
2018-02-06  9:14           ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04  9:14   ` Angelo Papenhoff
2018-02-04 14:15     ` arnold
2018-02-04 17:21     ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-04 20:05       ` Dan Cross
2018-02-04 20:55         ` Nemo
2018-02-04 20:57           ` Warner Losh
2018-02-04 20:59           ` Jon Steinhart
2018-02-04 22:12             ` Clem Cole
2018-02-05  1:32             ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05  1:44               ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 21:04         ` Toby Thain
2018-02-04 22:22           ` Andy Kosela
2018-02-04 22:43         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 22:54           ` George Michaelson
2018-02-05  3:35           ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05  3:40           ` Dan Cross
2018-02-05 13:48             ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 14:31               ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 21:51               ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 21:57                 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 22:31                   ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-05 23:16                     ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:49                       ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-06 17:42                       ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-06 18:23                         ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:10                   ` Charles Anthony
2018-02-05 23:20                   ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:28                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 23:36                       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:52                         ` George Michaelson
2018-02-06 14:52                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-05 23:18               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-06 21:51               ` Dan Cross
2018-02-06 23:14                 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-06 23:22                   ` Warner Losh
2018-02-07  3:03                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07  1:23                 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07  1:33                   ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07  1:54                   ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 18:01                     ` Tony Finch
2018-02-09  2:35                       ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-07 18:50                     ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-15 13:23                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-05  0:27         ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-05  0:41     ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-04  9:11 ` Donald ODona
2018-02-04 23:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 23:46   ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04 23:58     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05  0:06 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05  5:37   ` Steve Johnson
2018-02-05  5:53     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-02-05 10:49       ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05  6:57     ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 15:20 Doug McIlroy

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