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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019, A. P. Garcia wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 7:43 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com wrote
>
> <snip>
>
>>
> I would argue that Linux would not have happened without the internet
>> making it possible for folks around the world to participate.  And I think
>> that there's a good chance that the tools would have been created anyway.
>>
>
> That's more or less how I look at it. Back in the day there was
> comp.sources.unix for example. In Unix itself, there was /usr/ where tools
> developed by users other than the core developers belonged, and there was
> /usr/ucb/ where they put stuff from Berkeley. The culture surrounding Unix
> has always seemed to encourage outside participation, going back to the
> lenient licensing of Research Unix, and even before that, when it just
> existed at Murray Hill.
>
>>
>

If not for GNU, Unix would still have been cloned.  Net/2 happened in 
parallel, did it not?

-uso.