From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bdd4f927 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 22:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7481B9B8A8; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:55:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CF69B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:55:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9CA0C9B892; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:55:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from frieza.hoshinet.org (ks3374089.kimsufi.com [37.187.103.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0889B891 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 08:55:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 5092C1C8C79B; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 17:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457B31C8C798; Sun, 3 Feb 2019 17:55:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2019 17:55:37 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: nicci@frieza.hoshinet.org To: Dave Horsfall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20190203213907.GA6142@eureka.lemis.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Ken Thompson! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> Without Unix, Microsoft would not have created Microsoft "Windows". > > I'd like to see some evidence for that; without Unix, what would we be > running now? I doubt whether it would've been Linux, there being no > inspiration for it... > > My vague (and rough) recollection is CP/M -> DOS -> Windows. > >> Even it has roots in Unix. > > Only inasmuch as it has directories, users, and permissions (which any > semi-decent OS would have anyway)... Admittedly I have never compromised my > integrity by using/programming it, so I am willing to be corrected. > > And yes, I know about POSIX compatibility, but so is Linux, and it's > different enough from Unix to be damned annoying. > > -- Dave > Keep in mind that the MS-DOS 2 "handles" API for file access is based *directly* on Xenix, and replaced the MS-DOS 1 "FCB" API borrowed from CP/M. -uso.