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From: Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co>
To: Doug McIlroy <doug@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment?
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:26:00 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1910121018160.98187@frieza.hoshinet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201910121249.x9CCnEEP092354@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU>

On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, Doug McIlroy wrote:

>> That sounds like Macintosh rather than Apple ][.
>
> You are right. My error. I might add that OS X was
> afforded a different kind of "Aha, Unix!" moment.
>
> Doug
>

For me Unix felt like something that took the best parts of MS-DOS (which 
I was very familiar with) and improved on them - plus I knew / as a path 
separator from ProDOS on the Apple ][ (you can probably see where I'm 
going) ;p.

I later learned that this was because MS-DOS, while it was growing out of 
its "CP/M clone" phase, had pinched a lot of things from Unix and so this 
similarity was not a coincidence.  But what MS-DOS has to fumble around 
with and pretend to do, Unix actually *did*.

Not to mention, it had, like the Apple ][ and unlike MS-DOS, a single 
environment that combined a command shell and a programming language. 
Plus the network transparency.

It was the best of both worlds.

-uso.
Random: One of my laptops' Windows 10 install ate itself due to a bum 
update a couple days ago.  I had left Windows on it when I got it because 
I'd heard that the company's laptops that were not in a specific product 
line would not run Linux properly.  Actually, it was no problem at all, so 
it's running Debian now.  I also have a broken laptop that runs Debian 
headless.  I know it's not the real thing, but it'll suffice me. ;p

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-12 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-12  4:42 Doug McIlroy
2019-10-12  6:12 ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-12 10:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2019-10-12 12:49   ` Doug McIlroy
2019-10-12 14:26     ` Steve Nickolas [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-10-22 13:36 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-22 14:22 ` Abhinav Rajagopalan
2019-10-22 20:08   ` Warren Toomey
2019-10-21 12:34 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-21 12:10 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-21 16:50 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2019-10-20 19:25 Norman Wilson
2019-10-20 20:12 ` Sean Dwyer
2019-10-21  2:31   ` Ken Thompson via TUHS
2019-10-21  2:37     ` Warren Toomey
2019-10-22  5:25       ` Peter Jeremy
2019-10-22  6:29       ` Sean Dwyer
2019-10-21  2:40     ` Bakul Shah
2019-10-21  2:45     ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-21 10:45       ` jason-tuhs
2019-10-21 11:55         ` William Corcoran
2019-10-22  5:19         ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-16 14:39 Doug McIlroy
2019-10-15  0:28 Pat Barron
2019-10-15  1:19 ` Andrew Warkentin
2019-10-15  4:06   ` Warner Losh
2019-10-14 16:45 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-14 15:32 Doug McIlroy
2019-10-15  8:42 ` Thomas Paulsen
2019-10-13 16:07 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-13 16:25 ` Richard Salz
2019-10-13  3:45 Rudi Blom
2019-10-13  1:57 Jon Steinhart
2019-10-12 13:55 Noel Chiappa
2019-10-12 14:51 ` Ronald Natalie
2019-10-10 20:55 Warren Toomey
2019-10-10 21:11 ` SPC
2019-10-10 21:25   ` Jim Capp
2019-10-10 21:33     ` greg travis
2019-10-10 21:13 ` Michael Parson
2019-10-10 21:15 ` Matt Rudge
2019-10-10 21:31 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-10-10 21:34 ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-10 23:10 ` Seth J. Morabito
2019-10-10 23:23 ` Brian L. Stuart
2019-10-10 23:28   ` George Michaelson
2019-10-10 23:35 ` Bakul Shah
2019-10-10 23:49   ` David
2019-10-11  1:44 ` Gregg Levine
2019-10-11  1:45   ` Gregg Levine
2019-10-11 10:55 ` Leah Neukirchen
2019-10-11 12:04   ` Tyler Adams
2019-10-13 19:46     ` Peter Jeremy
2019-10-14  2:13       ` Lawrence Stewart
2019-10-14  2:32         ` Rico Pajarola
2019-10-14  9:49           ` Michael Kjörling
2019-10-14 18:36             ` Nemo Nusquam
2019-10-14 21:10               ` Jim Geist
2019-10-14 22:22                 ` Warren Toomey
2019-10-14 22:56                 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-14 23:44                   ` Jim Geist
2019-10-14 23:47                     ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-14 23:54                       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-15  0:03                         ` Henry Bent
2019-10-14 23:54                       ` Ronald Natalie
2019-10-15  0:04                         ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-15  0:06                           ` Ronald Natalie
2019-10-15  0:27                             ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-15  0:07                         ` George Michaelson
2019-10-15  0:10                           ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-14 23:52                     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-11 12:53 ` KatolaZ
2019-10-11 16:44 ` Pete Wright
2019-10-11 17:13 ` Jim Geist
2019-10-11 17:20   ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-11 17:40   ` Jim Capp
2019-10-11 17:48 ` Larry W. Cashdollar via TUHS
2019-10-11 21:56 ` Tomasz Rola
2019-10-12  2:41 ` ricercar
2019-10-12  3:01   ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-12 14:37     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-12 16:12     ` David
2019-10-12 17:59       ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-12 19:10         ` Jon Forrest
2019-10-13 21:45           ` Steve Johnson
2019-10-14  0:36             ` Jon Forrest
2019-10-14  2:08               ` Lawrence Stewart
2019-10-16 13:29             ` Pierre DAVID
2019-10-12  3:23   ` Richard Salz
2019-10-12  3:34     ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-12 21:32     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-10-12  8:55 ` Wesley Parish
2019-10-12 10:17 ` Naveen Nathan
2019-10-12 11:54 ` markus schnalke
2019-10-12 19:33 ` Michael Kjörling
2019-10-12 22:38   ` Gregg Levine
2019-10-13  1:37 ` Dan Cross
2019-10-13 15:00 ` Robert Brockway
2019-10-13 15:33 ` arnold
2019-10-13 15:41   ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-13 15:47     ` David Potesta
2019-10-18  1:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-10-18 12:07   ` Ronald Natalie
2019-10-21 16:16 ` Dario Niedermann
2019-10-23  5:13 ` Gilles Gravier
2019-10-23  6:19   ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-23 15:08   ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-23 15:11     ` Larry McVoy
2019-10-23 15:26       ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-10-23 15:33         ` Dan Cross
2019-10-23 16:19           ` Arthur Krewat
2019-10-23 15:17     ` Richard Salz
2019-10-23 15:22       ` Arrigo Triulzi
2019-10-23 16:45     ` Will Senn
2019-10-23 22:19       ` Adam Thornton
2019-10-24 17:32       ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2019-10-26  0:33     ` Dave Horsfall
2019-10-25 20:58 ` John S Quarterman
2019-10-25 22:11   ` Will Senn
2019-10-26  0:57 ` William Corcoran

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