From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0820944c for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4611C9BCE8; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:26:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490DA9B8C4; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:26:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 18DF39B8C4; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:26:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from frieza.hoshinet.org (ks3374089.kimsufi.com [37.187.103.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4552E9B8A5 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 00:26:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 65B261C8C79B; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492731C8C798; Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 10:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: nicci@frieza.hoshinet.org To: Doug McIlroy In-Reply-To: <201910121249.x9CCnEEP092354@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: References: <201910120442.x9C4ggMF021949@coolidge.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <201910121249.x9CCnEEP092354@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] What was your "Aha, Unix!" moment? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sat, 12 Oct 2019, Doug McIlroy wrote: >> That sounds like Macintosh rather than Apple ][. > > You are right. My error. I might add that OS X was > afforded a different kind of "Aha, Unix!" moment. > > Doug > For me Unix felt like something that took the best parts of MS-DOS (which I was very familiar with) and improved on them - plus I knew / as a path separator from ProDOS on the Apple ][ (you can probably see where I'm going) ;p. I later learned that this was because MS-DOS, while it was growing out of its "CP/M clone" phase, had pinched a lot of things from Unix and so this similarity was not a coincidence. But what MS-DOS has to fumble around with and pretend to do, Unix actually *did*. Not to mention, it had, like the Apple ][ and unlike MS-DOS, a single environment that combined a command shell and a programming language. Plus the network transparency. It was the best of both worlds. -uso. Random: One of my laptops' Windows 10 install ate itself due to a bum update a couple days ago. I had left Windows on it when I got it because I'd heard that the company's laptops that were not in a specific product line would not run Linux properly. Actually, it was no problem at all, so it's running Debian now. I also have a broken laptop that runs Debian headless. I know it's not the real thing, but it'll suffice me. ;p