From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 14716 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2020 05:35:39 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2020 05:35:39 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 650DA9BD7F; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:35:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39649BB47; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:35:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C5D049BB47; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:35:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from frieza.hoshinet.org (ks3374089.kimsufi.com [37.187.103.66]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F819BB46 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:35:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 09EF01C8C79B; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frieza.hoshinet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C811C8C798; Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 01:35:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: nicci@frieza.hoshinet.org To: Dave Horsfall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <202003031815.023IFSlD493028@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20200311225638.GG89512@eureka.lemis.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Command line options and complexity X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Which is why I suggested there be a means to turn it off; I'm becoming a fan > of environment variables to modify the standard behaviour of tools (but I > loathe the Penguin/OS default to use colours). When I first used Linux, that wasn't the default. Personally, I don't think it should be (actually I think there simply shouldn't be a color mode at all to ls). > More than likely; as I approach age 68 I notice that I'm losing some > cognitive facility... I might start using "," and see if I like it, but I > see that the Mac doesn't have it (my Penguin is off the air at the moment), > and having it as an environment variable would be nice. GNU ls does not appear to have a -, switch. IBM, interestingly, introduced an environment variable in PC DOS 6.3 that did the opposite thing. If the NO_SEP variable existed, it suppressed commas in file sizes. -uso.