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On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Peter Jeremy wrote:

> On 2020-Mar-11 20:53:12 -0400, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> wrote:
>
>> I felt -s was a redundant "kindasorta -l".
>
> Except they are reporting completely different things - consider sparse
> files or filesystems (like ZFS) that support compression.

I was under the impression that -s simply showed the file size divided by 
512 and didn't account for sparseness or compression.

(Of the filesystems I frequently work with, one of them does actually 
support sparseness (ProDOS).)

-uso.