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From: dave@horsfall.org (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: [TUHS] Early non-Unix filesystems?
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:11:07 +1100 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1603220035320.15730@aneurin.horsfall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82f0876de76c486a95d1091c88279546.squirrel@webmail.yaccman.com>

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016, scj at yaccman.com wrote:

> At least in my experience, editing the "deck of cards" (and certainly, 
> editing anything on magnetic tape) was really painful -- there was no 
> way to move blocks of text around -- you started at the beginning of the 
> file and had to edit lines in order (one shot per line) until you got to 
> the end.  You could add lines or delete them, but only when you came to 
> them. The editor copied the edited file into an output file, and then 
> you had to do another step to copy the new version back over the 
> original one.

Memories of IEBUPDTE come to me...  A very useful program, when it came to 
doing things, ahem, not allowed by the computer centre, by us Comp Sci 
kiddies...

Ah, the time I got SPITBOL to work beyond its use-by date, for example; 
the thing was riddled with date checks (the first one was obvious, but the 
rest not so much; its endearing habit was to jump to whatever was in R0 at 
the time).  I wrote something that searched for that particular date 
string, and after inspecting the surrounding binary code I patched it...

> The first time I tried to edit the deck on disc, I specified the output
> file to be equal to the input file.  The program did not check this, and I
> ended by nuking about 20% of the card images!  Luckily I had a listing... 
> I punched out the trash on the disc and spent an entire weekend
> rearranging and repunching the cards to get back to where I had been...

[...]

And who here hasn't done "cat file ... > file"?

> It just goes to show that I should have taken my mother's advice -- 
> before you throw out a deck of cards, put a rubber band around it!

Walking down the corridors of Comp Sci, a student in front of me dropped 
his entire deck of approx 2000 cards, all over the floor...  I have no 
idea whether he got them sorted, but I sure as hell used rubber bands 
after that!

-- 
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer."


  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-18  0:48 Warren Toomey
2016-03-18  2:49 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-18  3:59 ` John Cowan
2016-03-18  5:11   ` Warren Toomey
2016-03-18 17:45     ` John Cowan
2016-03-18  8:00 ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-18  8:42   ` Peter Jeremy
2016-03-18 13:04     ` Clem Cole
2016-03-18 17:12       ` scj
2016-03-18 17:45         ` Random832
2016-03-18 18:02           ` scj
2016-03-21 14:11             ` Dave Horsfall [this message]
2016-03-21 21:43               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-21 22:57                 ` scj
2016-03-21 23:05                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2016-03-22  0:27                   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-23 22:46                   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-24  0:32                     ` Ron Natalie
2016-03-24  0:43                       ` Milo Velimirovic
2016-03-24  0:47                         ` Ron Natalie
2016-03-24  1:05                     ` Clem Cole
2016-03-23  1:28                 ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-23  1:51                   ` Milo Velimirovic
2016-03-23  6:49                   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-23  7:02                     ` Peter Jeremy
2016-03-23  7:12                       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-23 13:54                       ` Ron Natalie
2016-03-23 16:28                         ` John Cowan
2016-03-23  8:20                     ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-21 11:07           ` Tony Finch
2016-03-21 12:06             ` John Cowan
2016-03-22  0:13               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-22  0:48                 ` John Cowan
2016-03-18 17:01 ` Pat Barron
2016-03-22  5:21   ` shawn wilson
2016-03-23  0:54     ` Clem Cole
2016-03-23  1:07       ` Clem Cole
     [not found] <mailman.1.1458266402.23080.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2016-03-18  2:13 ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-18  2:36   ` Charles Anthony
2016-03-18  2:26 Noel Chiappa
2016-03-22  0:56 Doug McIlroy
2016-03-23  1:58 Doug McIlroy
     [not found] <mailman.1.1458784801.4499.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2016-03-24 10:17 ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-24 11:35   ` Ron Natalie
2016-03-24 11:37     ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-24 22:50   ` Peter Jeremy
2016-03-24 23:06     ` Johnny Billquist
     [not found]       ` <9CBDF635-2FC9-4855-8419-0413EC0336A7@centurytel.net>
2016-03-25  0:35         ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27  0:48       ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-24 19:13 Nemo
2016-03-24 19:54 ` Milo Velimirović
2016-03-26 21:05   ` Ronald Natalie
2016-03-26 21:34     ` Charles Anthony
2016-03-26 22:09       ` Ronald Natalie
2016-03-28 20:32       ` scj

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