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From: dave@horsfall.org (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: [TUHS] Comments on "C"
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 07:23:56 +1000 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1609030701590.78806@aneurin.horsfall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160901091746.1F3734422E@lignose.oclsc.org>

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, Norman Wilson wrote:

> Programming well requires a lot of thought and care and careful 
> rereading, and often throwing half the code out and re-doing it better, 
> and until we can have a programming community the majority of whom are 
> up to those challenges, we will continue to have crashes and security 
> vulnerabilities and other embarrassing bugs aplenty, no matter what 
> language is used.

I think I saw that in CACM: "Prepare to throw out half your code, because 
you will anyway".

Then there was the time I saw a Uni student, when, ambling down the 
corridor at UNSW Comp Sci, he tripped and spilled the entire deck of 
cards; after laughing for a while, I helped him to put them through the 
reader-sorter (fortunately, they were sequenced, I think).

When I think back on some of the code I wrote, I still shudder...  Mind 
you, this was back in the days of the IBM-360 and the PDP-11, and I'd only 
just graduated, m'lud.

-- 
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer."


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-02 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-01  9:17 Norman Wilson
2016-09-01 15:11 ` Clem Cole
2016-09-01 21:47 ` Tim Bradshaw
2016-09-02  0:11   ` Mary Ann Horton
2016-09-02  7:10     ` Steve Simon
2016-09-02 10:02       ` Steve Nickolas
2016-09-02 14:13       ` Random832
2016-09-02 21:23 ` Dave Horsfall [this message]
2016-09-04 17:03   ` scj
2016-09-05 13:07     ` Ron Natalie
2016-09-04 22:24   ` Nemo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-09  2:43 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-08 13:30 Noel Chiappa
2016-09-08 14:22 ` Tony Finch
2016-09-08 19:20   ` Ron Natalie
2016-09-08 22:06     ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-09  3:02       ` Ronald Natalie
2016-09-09  6:06         ` Diomidis Spinellis
2016-09-09 21:15 ` Mary Ann Horton
2016-09-08 12:35 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-09 17:07 ` scj
2016-08-28 18:21 Dave Horsfall
2016-08-29  0:37 ` Marc Rochkind
2016-08-29  0:42   ` Larry McVoy
2016-08-29  1:54     ` Steve Nickolas
2016-09-08  1:19     ` Blake McBride
2016-08-29  3:16   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-08-31 10:02     ` Tim Bradshaw
2016-08-31 12:59       ` John Cowan
2016-08-31 13:32         ` Ron Natalie
2016-08-31 14:37           ` John Cowan
2016-08-31 13:57   ` Brantley Coile

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