On Fri, 10 Nov 2017, William Corcoran wrote: > It could also be that the 80 column display with 24 rows using 8 bit > characters fit nicely within a 16k memory chip (or four (4) 4K chips). I > wonder if that fact eventually helped OEM’s settle in on the ubiquitous > 80x24 terminal size? Perhaps. I still have horrible memories of the VT-05, flogged as the console for the PDP-11. It was 72x20 (yes, really!), upper-case only (but flipping a switch caused it to transmit lower-case as well), lacked a few characters, etc... It probably used even smaller chips. And yes, I'm a crusty dinosaur who won't adapt to the modern times; my windows are 80x24, with the occasional 80x40, but occasionally using wide screens for side-by-side diffs ("sdiff" is a wonderful tool), etc. I also have poor eyesight, so I can't use small fonts. -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."