From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9701aa72 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2018 23:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 90DF1A1A7C; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2EA1A29; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 23535A1A29; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta13p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta13p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.77]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B852A1A20 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep13p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20180828233002.FXCS20273.viclafep13p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:02 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtjedrgeehgddvtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvfftteenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesmhdttdertderjeenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghequceuqfffjgepkeeukffvoffkoffgpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.26-1) id 5B0423710E075931 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:01 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7SNU0dD002305 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7SNU04O002302 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:30:00 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20180826003127.GA18905@minnie.tuhs.org> <20180826052931.GA14695@wopr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-666840525-1535499000=:41601" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Usenix: no official Unix 50th celebration, apparently X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-666840525-1535499000=:41601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT I know that I'll probably get into trouble for writing this (I'm a born stirrer, coming from a military family), but... On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, Kevin Bowling wrote: > This is all so asinine it sounds like it’s run by a random haughty > social club of people far detached from systems and UNIX and especially > far from publishing systems papers that actually advance the art. > Sometimes it is necessary to let an org know it’s become a joke.  I’d > prefer to attend and assist with something not affiliated with Usenix > after reading this thread. I'm having trouble thinking of an OS (still in current use) that has remained *mostly* unchanged over 50 years. Yes, Unix has certainly evolved, but is still recognisable as "do one thing, and do it well". It's just a shame that they seem to have broken the other philosophy of "everything looks like a file". -- Dave --1483753691-666840525-1535499000=:41601--