From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 49a28131 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 23:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 30DC6A1A3A; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:02:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09702A1A29; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1BC30A1A29; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta22p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta22p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.86]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 530F3A1A26 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep22p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20180903230150.EIAR19458.viclafep22p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:50 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtjedrheejgddugecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvfftteenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.26-1) id 5B0423710F070F34 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:49 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w83N1mwe040316 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w83N1mlR040313 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:01:47 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1535565898.3905695.1490376112.4B7D3E18@webmail.messagingengine.com> <6e7783fb-ff06-2e21-002f-76bef263b63c@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <6e3a87ce-f573-4258-9db5-a5f99b5b89b1.maildroid@localhost> <20180829202111.GA17007@minnie.tuhs.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] =?utf-8?b?UmV0cm9OZXTigKY=?= X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Ed Carp wrote: > Wow, that takes me back quite a ways. I think I've still got my UUCP > setup somewhere on a backup. UUCP works great over anything from ssh > over tcpip to 1200 baud half-duplex packet connections. If you're referring to "Amateur" i.e. "ham radio" packet radio than yes, I'm told that it works great i.e. half-duplex -> large data -> short ACK. > Fond memories. Heh heh - I once ran *raw* Xmodem over packet i.e. not encapsulated in that protocol-from-hell AX.25 i.e. technically illegal[*]; it worked great until a packet was lost (the "hidden transmitter" problem) and the various timeouts concerned (Xmodem vs. the TNCs themselves) went completely pear-shaped... [*] Stuff the legality; isn't Amateur radio all about experimentation? But we did announce on that frequency that we were about to conduct an experiment. And whoever designed AX.25 (yes, I have studied it in great detail) must've been on something at the time... Protocol layers? What's that? -- Dave (VK2KFU)