From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 35f130d1 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 23:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7500BA1A8D; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1932EA1A29; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 103EEA1A29; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta32p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta32p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.96]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C3DCA1A26 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep32p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20180903234128.FZNS22936.viclafep32p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:28 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtjedrheejgddvudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvfftteenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.26-1) id 5B0423710F08EC3C for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:28 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w83NfRlt041114 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w83NfRf7041111 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 09:41:27 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <201809031329.w83DT5q0105108@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> Message-ID: References: <201809031329.w83DT5q0105108@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Public access multics X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Doug McIlroy wrote: >> Was Algol 60 any kind of viable alternative at the time? > > The operating system for the Burroughs B5000 had been written in > Burroughs Algol. That punctured the widespread belief that OS's were so > particular to the hardware that they had to be written in machine > language. I don't recall how far Burroughs Algol went beyond Algol 60, > nor why Multics did not want to follow that lead. ("Viable" is a > slippery concept when choosing among Turing-complete alternatives.) Call me memory-challenged (which I am these days), but wasn't Burroughs' OS known as Master Control Program (MCP - Male Chauvinist Pig)? -- Dave, who has fond memories of the B1500...