From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8196d3fb for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CFE3AA221A; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:07:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F64A1FB5; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:07:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B3BF1A1FB0; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:13:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta24p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta24p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.88]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B83DCA1FB0 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:13:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep24p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20181029211311.FDAZ5226.viclafep24p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:13:11 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrheekgddufeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeothhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrgheqnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.26-1) id 5BB3FB5004BDA6D3 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:13:11 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w9TLDATY068174 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:13:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w9TLD9SP068171 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:13:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 08:13:09 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <5B2BFC4F-6FAC-4104-9BCC-2D3C5C0B0970@johnlabovitz.com> Message-ID: References: <20181029021023.GA27974@eureka.lemis.com> <20181029071652.zzauekw6ikpqd4ur@h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se> <5B2BFC4F-6FAC-4104-9BCC-2D3C5C0B0970@johnlabovitz.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] First ARPAnet transmission X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, John Labovitz wrote: [...] > ...it appears that DST was *not* in effect on October 30, 1969. Which is another reason why I don't use UTC; not only do I have to be familiar with every timezone in the world (how many does Russia have again? At least China has just the one) but I also have to see whether DST applied at the time. Did you know, for example, that in Australia, DST was changed to accommodate the Sydney 2000 Olympics, otherwise the foreign athletes would've been confused as hell? Abolish DST, I say; it was introduced as a temporary measure during one of the World Wars to increase production or something. -- Dave