From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 84746bdf for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 01:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 92DDE948E7; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28AB9486D; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7DB4B9486D; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta07p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta07p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.71]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F347947F3 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep07p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20190710013416.RDFX9507.viclafep07p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:16 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrgeeggdegjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.335) id 5D1C2D4D012BD29A for tuhs@tuhs.org; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:16 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x6A1YEVi094624 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x6A1YE1w094621 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:34:14 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20190710011936.GS12433@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <30de4da1-be33-b546-a277-37afe5632e6e@mhorton.net> <5cb16efc-4c88-9750-a5d0-2ef20dd79746@mhorton.net> <20190710004916.GP12433@mcvoy.com> <2d89322e-c178-5abe-3906-de64b5058132@kilonet.net> <20190710011936.GS12433@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Larry McVoy wrote: > Indeed. Bringing up X11 when I knew nothing about graphics drivers was, > um, interesting. It did teach me to just try #ifdef-ing out the code > that didn't work, sort of a prune the tree approach, that helped me > later in life. Things don't have to be perfect, a working window system > that fails in some corner case I don't hit is better than nothing by a > long shot. Back in the 80s, our idiot of a manager just dumped an Xterm on us, expecting us to get it to work ASAP for a demo.. Oh the fun we had, seeing as our knowledge of "X" at the time was confined to knowing how to spell it... I even told him that, and he wasn't amused :-) -- Dave