From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 47fd52b9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 22:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A6C549BA9D; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:59:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99AA9BA98; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:59:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id EA82A93D33; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:59:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta01p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta01p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABCC393D2B for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:59:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep01p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20191111225900.QGHS6167.viclafep01p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:59:00 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedruddvjedgudejtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.418) id 5D8A79A307CD8A57 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:59:00 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xABMwx41095146 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:58:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xABMww1W095143 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:58:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 09:58:58 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20191111223129.GB23273@mit.edu> Message-ID: References: <201911112110.xABLAQfW004396@skeeve.com> <20191111223129.GB23273@mit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of m6? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 11 Nov 2019, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:10:26PM +0200, Arnold Robbins wrote: >> I guess I'll also ask, how widespread was the use of macro processors >> in high level languages? They were big for assembler, and PL/1 had >> a macro language, but I don't know of any other contemporary languages >> that had them. Were the general purpose macro processors used a lot? >> E.g. with Fortran or Cobol or ... Late trivia: it's PL/I, not PL/1; rumour has it that IBM trademarked them all up to PL/C i.e. PL/100... > Well, there's Ratfor (Rational Fortran), which was implemented as a > preprocessor in front of Fortran. I don't think it was used a lot, > though.... I think I used it once, on the principle that I'll try anything once; ugh... -- Dave