From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b236c96f for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7E8189C5F6; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:38:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D783293D74; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:38:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 687C193D74; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:38:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta33p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta33p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.97]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DF7493D71 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 07:38:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep33p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20191125213808.HNGI6033.viclafep33p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:38:08 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudeiuddgudehvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.418) id 5D8A7DF90A49B353 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:38:08 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xAPLc7QI069430 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:38:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id xAPLc7WF069427 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:38:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:38:07 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20191125174515.GY18200@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <20191124225239.GG18200@mcvoy.com> <20191125032404.GM18200@mcvoy.com> <0a6fb097-fe79-1633-0205-1c45f0a56953@bitsavers.org> <96b55e5e-4b05-f7b7-c2ae-efdae7c18b2f@kilonet.net> <20191125174515.GY18200@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Someone wants to use an exabyte X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 25 Nov 2019, Larry McVoy wrote: > It's no secret that I enjoyed my years at Sun, but I can't defend these > drives, I had the same experience. When I look back on it, the only > tapes that I remember being reliable where the 9 track reel to reel and > the QIC-150. Once it got to GB sized tapes, everything seemed like > crap. I see you've never enjoyed the thrills of "print through" on the 9-tracks, nor the build-up of gunk (the then Australian Atomic Energy Commission had a "tape cleaner" whereby the tape was basically run over a sharp blade). And as for the QIC-150 drive that would occasionally fall back to what I would call a QIC-75 when presented with media previously written at a lower density... I recall that an EPROM upgrade fixed that. -- Dave