From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24856 invoked from network); 26 May 2020 04:22:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 May 2020 04:22:04 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 998E79C932; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1149C6B4; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1078F9C6B4; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta20p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta20p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.84]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB87293D53 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep20p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20200526042119.ROGM21757.viclafep20p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:19 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedruddvuddgjeelucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehmtddtredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegteeivdevfeffudekhfegleduveejkedtgfefudekhfekleelvdejheetfeefnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghequceuqfffjgepkeeukffvoffkoffgpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5E865EB509CCA82F for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:18 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 04Q4LGhF096640 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 04Q4LDgg096637 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 14:21:13 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <8a2e9b1b-8890-a783-5b53-c8480c070f2e@telegraphics.com.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-242123864-1590466876=:79423" Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of popularity of C X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-242123864-1590466876=:79423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 23 May 2020, Clem Cole wrote: > [...]  Pascal tries to be the answer, but I think it suffered from the > fact that it makes Pascal a production quality language, you had a > extend it and everybody's extensions were different. Perhaps I'm the only one here, but when I was taught Pascal (possibly by Dr. Lions himself) it was emphasised to us that it was not a production language bur a *teaching* language; you designed your algorithm, debugged it with the Pascal compiler, then hand-translated it into your favourite language (and debugged it again :-/). That damned "pre-fill read buffer" was always a swine with interactive sessions, though; I recall Andrew Hume threatening to insert a keyboard into the terminal's CRT if he saw that "?" prompt on the Cyber... -- Dave --1483753691-242123864-1590466876=:79423--