From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31189 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2020 22:24:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jun 2020 22:24:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 09952945B0; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DF39459A; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 665239459A; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta19p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta19p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.83]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0814394599 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep19p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20200623222432.SBNI8562.viclafep19p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:32 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrudekiedgtdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5E8A6D750DF765C6 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:32 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 05NMOVSD065798 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 05NMOUa2065795 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:24:30 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <1592950638.2831.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> Message-ID: References: <1592950638.2831.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] VFS prior to 1984 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, Norman Wilson wrote: > The only file-system switch I know well is that in the later Research > systems. It has nothing to do with disks or blocks. It is about names > and inodes: turn name to struct inode, read arbitrary chunk of data, > write arbitrary chunk of data, create file, unlink file, abominable > ill-defined system call that just wouldn't die erm I mean ioctl, and so > on. Ioctl: the Swiss Army knife of system calls. I thought it was a neat idea when it arrived (much better then those primitive stty/gtty calls) but now... -- Dave