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From: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] VFS prior to 1984
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:10:26 +1000 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2006241448080.46505@aneurin.horsfall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqkj9w4T_DQ98D4uVH-mG4Scefd7oDuqf9pvq1hozjfXw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, Warner Losh wrote:

> > Ioctl: the Swiss Army knife of system calls.  I thought it was a neat 
> > idea when it arrived (much better then those primitive stty/gtty 
> > calls) but now...
> 
> More like the swiss army chainsaw with engine trouble and a dull 
> blade....

(Slowly drifting off-topic (as all mailing lists do) so perhaps a new 
thread would be better.)

Love it!  On the other hand though, if an extra service is required of the 
OS and you don't want to extend ioctl(), then that means Yet Another 
System Call (tm).  I really like the idea of /proc, so if there's an 
equivalent for ioctl() then I'd love to see it; /sys would be an obvious 
choice, but it's already taken (Harris' Lament).

No doubt, someone will now chime in and say that there's an existing 
mechanism involving shared memory or something...  My Unix-fu is getting 
rather long in the tooth now (just like me).

-- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-23 22:17 Norman Wilson
2020-06-23 22:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24  4:09   ` Warner Losh
2020-06-24  5:10     ` Dave Horsfall [this message]
2020-06-24  5:33       ` Bakul Shah
2020-06-24  9:10         ` Andrew Warkentin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-06-29  9:11 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-29 14:45 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-29 14:53   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-29 15:14     ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-29 16:34 ` Heinz Lycklama
2020-06-25 20:25 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-26  5:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-26  8:34   ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-26 11:13     ` arnold
2020-06-25 20:23 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-25 19:31 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-24 18:31 Norman Wilson
2020-06-25  6:22 ` arnold
2020-06-24 17:51 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-24 18:13 ` Richard Salz
2020-06-24 18:46   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-24 14:31 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-24 15:21 ` Clem Cole
2020-06-23  9:09 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-23 14:01 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-23 15:12   ` Clem Cole
2020-06-23 15:55     ` Rich Morin
2020-06-23 20:38     ` Rob Pike
2020-06-23 20:57       ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-24  5:14       ` arnold
2020-06-24 21:08         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24 19:30       ` Clem Cole
2020-06-24 19:36     ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-25  6:52       ` Rob Gingell
2020-07-05  0:05       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-07-05  0:16         ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-06  4:42           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-07-06 16:51           ` Chris Torek
2020-07-07  1:07             ` Bakul Shah
2020-07-05  1:43         ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 14:43           ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-05 18:40             ` Arthur Krewat
2020-07-05 20:08             ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 20:42               ` John Cowan
2020-07-05 21:04                 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 21:14                   ` Dan Cross
2020-06-24 16:51 ` Anthony Martin
2020-06-24 17:31   ` Anthony Martin
2020-06-24 18:31   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-25  0:56     ` Rob Gingell via TUHS
2020-06-24 19:05   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-24 20:27 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-06-24 21:33 ` Greg A. Woods
2020-06-25  0:45   ` Adam Thornton
2020-06-25 19:40     ` Greg A. Woods

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