From: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] VFS prior to 1984
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 10:05:57 +1000 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.2007050939520.455@aneurin.horsfall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200624193647.GB14302@mcvoy.com>
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, Larry McVoy wrote:
>> In the end, early NFS was notorious for putting 'holes' in the files
>> because of the automatic seek in every operation and errors not coming
>> until close(2) time.
>
> You have no idea how many of those holes that 16 bit SCCS checksum has
> found (BitKeeper kept it).
Aren't holes part of the file system semantics? Seek beyond EOF, write a
block, and you've created unallocated holes. Of course, they are filled
with zeroes as soon as you copy the file... I did fiddle with "cp" to
detect those holes and preserve them, but gave up for some reason
(performance hit in checking for all-zero blocks, I think, along with some
weird problem with the last block being all zeroes).
I used NFS when it first appeared and got bitten quite badly; I've never
really trusted it ever since, but I understand that it's vastly improved.
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-05 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-23 9:09 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-23 14:01 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-23 15:12 ` Clem Cole
2020-06-23 15:55 ` Rich Morin
2020-06-23 20:38 ` Rob Pike
2020-06-23 20:57 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-24 5:14 ` arnold
2020-06-24 21:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24 19:30 ` Clem Cole
2020-06-24 19:36 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-25 6:52 ` Rob Gingell
2020-07-05 0:05 ` Dave Horsfall [this message]
2020-07-05 0:16 ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-06 4:42 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-07-06 16:51 ` Chris Torek
2020-07-06 23:23 ` [TUHS] ECC memory John Gilmore
2020-07-07 1:07 ` [TUHS] VFS prior to 1984 Bakul Shah
2020-07-05 1:43 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 14:43 ` Larry McVoy
2020-07-05 18:40 ` Arthur Krewat
2020-07-05 20:08 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 20:42 ` John Cowan
2020-07-05 21:04 ` Clem Cole
2020-07-05 21:14 ` Dan Cross
2020-06-24 16:51 ` Anthony Martin
2020-06-24 17:31 ` Anthony Martin
2020-06-24 18:31 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-25 0:56 ` Rob Gingell via TUHS
2020-06-25 4:15 ` [TUHS] Oh, things were very different Rich Morin
2020-06-25 15:45 ` Lawrence Stewart
2020-06-25 16:24 ` Warner Losh
2020-06-25 17:57 ` Arthur Krewat
2020-06-25 20:22 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-25 20:42 ` Michael Kjörling
2020-06-25 20:49 ` Clem Cole
2020-06-26 0:48 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24 19:05 ` [TUHS] VFS prior to 1984 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-24 20:27 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-06-24 21:33 ` Greg A. Woods
2020-06-25 0:45 ` Adam Thornton
2020-06-25 19:40 ` Greg A. Woods
2020-06-23 22:17 Norman Wilson
2020-06-23 22:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24 4:09 ` Warner Losh
2020-06-24 5:10 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-24 5:33 ` Bakul Shah
2020-06-24 9:10 ` Andrew Warkentin
2020-06-24 14:31 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-24 15:21 ` Clem Cole
2020-06-24 17:51 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-24 18:13 ` Richard Salz
2020-06-24 18:46 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-24 18:31 Norman Wilson
2020-06-25 6:22 ` arnold
2020-06-25 19:31 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-25 20:23 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-25 20:25 Noel Chiappa
2020-06-26 5:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-06-26 8:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-06-26 11:13 ` arnold
2020-06-29 9:11 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-29 14:45 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-29 14:53 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-06-29 15:14 ` Larry McVoy
2020-06-29 16:34 ` Heinz Lycklama
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