From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22714 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2020 23:25:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jul 2020 23:25:26 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 654F89CAB5; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:25:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF29CAA7; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 19E8B9CAA6; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta28p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta28p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.92]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 915AA9CAA5 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep28p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20200729232343.YUGH7960.viclafep28p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:43 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedrieehgddvudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeekieetjeeuuefhfeeguedvudeifeevudfgvedtffekhfffjeekhfdutdetheethfenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeothhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrgheq X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5F020FEA04362DBD for tuhs@tuhs.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:43 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 06TNNgCC051505 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 06TNNflW051502 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:23:41 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20200719233207.BB69D2D9E6DD@macaroni.inf.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: References: <20200719233207.BB69D2D9E6DD@macaroni.inf.ed.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] CR delay for VT05 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, Richard Tobin wrote: > Why would the VT05 (a VDU) need a delay for carriage return? I can just > about imagine that it might need one for linefeed if it shifted the > characters in memory. Given that the VT05 (shudder!) is broken in so many others ways e.g. 20x72 screen, sends upper-case only unless you flip an internal switch, etc, I'm not surprised that it would also need a CR delay... Primitive firmware? -- Dave