From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3849 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2020 00:01:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Aug 2020 00:01:15 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 07AAC9CAC8; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:01:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114793D6A; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0B31093D6A; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from viclamta06p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta06p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.70]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3EB093D06 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep06p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20200813000018.HWJX7934.viclafep06p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:18 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedrleefgddvlecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeekieetjeeuuefhfeeguedvudeifeevudfgvedtffekhfffjeekhfdutdetheethfenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeothhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrgheq X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5E865EB5170864FD for tuhs@tuhs.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:11 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 07D00BNV018343 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 07D009Mb018340 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:00:09 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20200801013605.GG10778@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <8e7efd45-a84e-cf20-9d30-8222357596a3@tnetconsulting.net> <202007200847.06K8l8DF026646@freefriends.org> <20200720094648.GE15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200801013605.GG10778@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] A/UX [was Linux is on-topic] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:12:57PM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: >>> SMIT was quite nice [ context seemingly removed ] >> >> i have never seen those four words together like that before. > > Me neither. SMIT was HORRIBLE if you understood the files in /etc and > knew what to do with them. It might be nice if you had no understanding > of how to admin a Unix system and here is this "nice" curses based way > to do admin. SMIT was one just one of the systems that I had to sysadmin (along with Open/Xenix (hah!), Slowaris, PH-UX (as we called it), etc; I narrowly avoided Windoze, along with denying all knowledge of COBOL. > To anyone remotely competent, and I don't mean edit sendmail.cf, I mean > you can edit inetd.conf, you can edit a crontab file, etc, SMIT was a > nightmare that made something that should be vi $FILE, done 20 seconds > later, a hellish journey through their menus. It was AWFUL. Quite, because I liked the way that SMIT showed you the obtuse command that was being executed, so you could run it yourself with modifications. > Ask me how I know. Ditto... -- Dave