From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14701 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2020 22:42:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Nov 2020 22:42:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BC94A9B946; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:42:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FBE9B92D; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:41:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DAFD19B92D; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:41:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta06p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta06p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.6]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 680719B921 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:41:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep06p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20201118224131.RWMD22421.nsstlfep06p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:41:31 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrudefiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesmhdttdertderjeenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeigeetiedvveefffdukefhgeeludevjeektdfgfedukefhkeelledvjeehteeffeenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqecuuefqffgjpeekuefkvffokffogfdprhgtphhtthhopeeothhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrgheq X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5F70FF6813E48343 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:41:31 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 0AIMfU14063161 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:41:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 0AIMfTbB063158 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:41:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:41:29 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-837473511-1605739290=:48674" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Where did the "~" come from X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-837473511-1605739290=:48674 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Clem Cole wrote: > In our exchange, someone observed suggested that Joy might have picked > it up because the HOME key was part of the tilde key on the ADM3A, which > were popular at UCB [i.e. the reason hjkl are the movement keys on vi is > the were embossed on the top of those keys on the ADM3A].  It also was > noted that the ASR-33 lacks a ~ key on its keyboard.  But Lesk > definitely needed something to represent a remote user's home directory > because each system was different, so he was forced to use something. The ADM-3A was one of the best terminals ever made. > It was also noted that there was plenty of cross-pollination going on as > students and researchers moved from site to site, so it could have been BTL > to UCB, vice-versa, or some other path altogether. > > So two questions for this august body are: > 1. Where did the ~ as $HOME convention come to UNIX? Gawd... I think I saw it in PWB, but I'm likely wrong. > 2. Did UNIX create the idiom, or was there an earlier system such as CTSS, > TENEX, ITS, MTS, TSS, or the like supported it? No idea. but given that Unix inherited a lot of stuff.... -- Dave --1483753691-837473511-1605739290=:48674--