On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Clem Cole wrote: > My point is that   "intelligent design" doesn't necessarily guarantee > goodness or for that matter,complete logical thinking. Don't mention "intelligent design" in my hearing; it's just a fad term for creation theory... Look at Unix, for example :-) It didn't so much spring from the brow of Zeus i.e. Ken and Dennis, but has since evolved over decades (and it's still recognisable as Unix). -- Dave, using Unix since Edition 5