From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27209 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2021 20:14:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Jan 2021 20:14:48 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C3DC19C677; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:14:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F8893FAE; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:14:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B14FB93FAE; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:14:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta18p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta18p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82DE393DAF for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:14:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep18p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210115201405.GKLB10815.nsstlfep18p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 07:14:05 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrtddvgdduuddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehmtddtredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhephfeifeegjeehjedttedvkeekkeefffehkedtgefggeejgfeugeefleelgeegiedunecuffhomhgrihhnpeifihhkihhpvgguihgrrdhorhhgnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghequceuqfffjgepkeeukffvoffkoffgpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD14066E8269 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 07:14:05 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10FKE28c000555 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 07:14:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 10FKE1eC000552 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2021 07:14:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 07:14:01 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-1374712200-1610741642=:95135" Subject: Re: [TUHS] ACM Fellow, Ken Thompson X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-1374712200-1610741642=:95135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, John Cowan wrote: > > Congratubloodylations, as we say down-under; it is well-deserved. > > > > Without Unix I'd probably still be supporting RSX-11 and VMS etc; > > their foray into Unix (Eunice) was doomed. > > Whose foray?  Not DEC's.  Eunice was built at SRI and sold by the > Wollongong Group, who must have had Downundrian connections.  I was > always very happy with it, as I am with Cygwin today.  Ultrix, on the > other hand, was DEC's: a BSD with SysV hacks, as opposed to Solaris > which was the other way around. I have alternative facts :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_(software) ``Eunice was a Unix-like working environment for VAX computers running DEC's VAX/VMS, based on the BSD version of Unix. It was originally developed ca. 1981 by David Kashtan at SRI[1] and later maintained and marketed by The Wollongong Group.'' > The Dilbert strip probably explains why everyone who could, wore beards > in those days.  Just to prevent that mistake. At one place I worked, every Unix bod sported facial fungus; it must be a Unix thing... -- Dave --1483753691-1374712200-1610741642=:95135--