From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17976 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2021 22:03:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Jan 2021 22:03:00 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7C8449C8BA; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 08:02:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06259C772; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 08:02:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7389E9C772; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 08:02:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta01p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta01p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59209C6CF for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 08:02:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep01p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210129220219.ZUC8688.nsstlfep01p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:02:19 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfedvgdduheejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehmtddtredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegteeivdevfeffudekhfegleduveejkedtgfefudekhfekleelvdejheetfeefnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghequceuqfffjgepkeeukffvoffkoffgpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD1409A12FB8 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:02:19 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 10TM2JSS062406 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:02:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 10TM2Ivu062403 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:02:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 09:02:18 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242114.10OLEYGk966708@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210124212525.GJ21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242333.10ONXjcI974038@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101250021.10P0L3Z2976588@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <6557f782-ecb1-6476-1eda-e23f30f9bbea@bitsavers.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-1504907287-1611957738=:36435" Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-1504907287-1611957738=:36435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, John Cowan wrote: > I've been messing around with X.680, aka ASN/1.  Its reputation for > horrible evilness, I find, primarily comes from the Packed Encoding > Rules and the interface with statically typed languages, both of which > require dealing with the schema language programmatically.  But if you > want to drive it from a dynamically typed language, it's dirt simple: to > write, see what data type you have, output a type and length and value > (or type and value and terminator), and there you are. I was never quite sure what to make of ASN.1 and BER; it seemed to solve the problem of OpenLDAP applications talking to each other (and I got quite good at reading wire traces), but it somehow seemed wrong when every box was running FreeBSD on Intel/AMD. -- Dave --1483753691-1504907287-1611957738=:36435--