From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17559 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2021 22:26:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Feb 2021 22:26:23 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5D3F39C9AB; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:26:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49EA9BA45; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:26:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E08269BA45; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:26:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta28p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta28p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.28]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F0D59BA40 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:26:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep28p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210204222601.WZPF7680.nsstlfep28p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:26:01 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrgeeggdduheefucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehmtddtredtreejnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepieegteeivdevfeffudekhfegleduveejkedtgfefudekhfekleelvdejheetfeefnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghequceuqfffjgepkeeukffvoffkoffgpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD410B2849E0 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:26:01 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 114MQ0fJ092998 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:26:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 114MQ071092995 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:26:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:25:59 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <202101301950.10UJoWeA456408@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210130222854.GN4227@mcvoy.com> <20210130231119.GA33905@eureka.lemis.com> <20210131022500.GU4227@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1483753691-1278739092-1612477560=:70858" Subject: Re: [TUHS] FreeBSD behind the times? (was: Favorite unix design principles?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1483753691-1278739092-1612477560=:70858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Angus Robinson wrote: > Not entirely sure as it's been a while since iI have used it but last > time I remember TrueOS which used FreeBSD was easy to use for a newbie. > There are other FreeBSD distro's like GhostBSD,etc that have an > installer like Linux. My 2c is that FreeBSD is not trying to get > people in that are newbies, it's for the server environment and it works > extremely well.  Exactly; FreeBSD is not for newbies: I'll leave Penguin/OS to that market. Mind you, OpenBSD was a bit of a bugger; all services are off by default. It's perfect for a firewall :-) -- Dave --1483753691-1278739092-1612477560=:70858--