From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8264 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2021 20:50:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Feb 2021 20:50:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CED3B9BC29; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 06:50:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073B99BA63; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 06:50:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4B6A49BA45; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 06:50:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta14p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta14p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.14]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1539BA3F for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 06:50:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep14p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210205205018.QKFS973.nsstlfep14p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:50:18 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrgeeigdduvdejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD410B64ED18 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:50:17 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 115KoHAi098278 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:50:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 115KoH5U098275 for ; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:50:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 07:50:17 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <9504e27d-d976-9681-6b97-aa87d124fc43@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <202101301950.10UJoWeA456408@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210130222854.GN4227@mcvoy.com> <20210130231119.GA33905@eureka.lemis.com> <20210131022500.GU4227@mcvoy.com> <9504e27d-d976-9681-6b97-aa87d124fc43@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] FreeBSD behind the times? (was: Favorite unix design principles?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, 4 Feb 2021, Will Senn wrote: > ZFS needn't be compressed, and I don't generally do compression or > encryption unless required by law, so I can't speak from personal > experience on those use cases (others, far more experienced can). I do > know that it's truly a pain to recover from issues with either. [...] Thanks; I'd heard that ZFS was a compressed file system, so I stopped right there (I had lots of experience in recovering from corrupted RK05s, and didn't need any more trouble). Ah, the RK05 - evil incarnate. I mean, a disk drive exposed to the air? Out There Somewhere [tm] is a picture of a human hair compared with the head clearance; yikes! Once a month, our DEC ginger-beer[*] would PM our 40s, and I was most perturbed to learn that the sole job of the internal NiCd battery was to drag those heads back in the event of a power failure; what, you were writing at the time? Too bad... [*] His surname was "Roth", so naturally his nickname was "Portnoy". -- Dave