From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32190 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2021 21:54:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Feb 2021 21:54:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B03EC9C26C; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:54:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E853394F1A; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:53:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 23C8D94F1A; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta04p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta04p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.4]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12E7F94F18 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:52:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep04p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210215215227.GLID15129.nsstlfep04p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:52:27 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrieekgdduhedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CCD00E7B2E46 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:52:27 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 11FLqQ6h041121 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:52:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 11FLqOBI041118 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:52:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:52:24 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <202102151956.11FJuRIh3079869@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Message-ID: References: <202102151956.11FJuRIh3079869@darkstar.fourwinds.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Abstractions X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Jon Steinhart wrote: [...] > So if y'all are up for it, I'd like to have a discussion on what > abstractions would be appropriate in order to meet modern needs. Any > takers? Somebody once suggested a filesystem interface (it certainly fits the Unix philosophy); I don't recall the exact details. -- Dave