From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12703 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2021 05:55:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Apr 2021 05:55:15 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CD69B9CAF4; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:55:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C14F9C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9FB789C883; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta27p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta27p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.27]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBC389C83D for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep27p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210406055432.TMXB1164.nsstlfep27p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:32 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudejfedguddtudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfupfevtfgpvffgnffuvffttedpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecugedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvufgjkfhffgggtgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomhepffgrvhgvucfjohhrshhfrghllhcuoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeekieetjeeuuefhfeeguedvudeifeevudfgvedtffekhfffjeekhfdutdetheethfenucfkphepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegrnhgvuhhrihhnrdhhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgqedprhgtphhtthhopeeothhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrgheq X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD411CDD567D for tuhs@tuhs.org; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:32 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1365sWOq045986 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 1365sVa3045983 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:54:31 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <202104051831.135IVKJS013930@freefriends.org> Message-ID: References: <20210405162050.DBFDD640CB7@lignose.oclsc.org> <202104051831.135IVKJS013930@freefriends.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] Whither Usenix [was How To Kill A Technical Conference] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > Yes, exactly. For me, Usenix provides little added value. I had been > debating leaving Usenix for several years already; the move to soft copy > ;login: clinched it for me. I'm not happy about it, but I had to > recognize my personal reality. I was not a member of Usenix; I was just a founding member (and past President) of AUUG, which decided to dissolve after we had done our job i.e. bring Unix to Australia. I used to enjoy reading the Usenix snippets in AUUGN, though. -- Dave