From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1593 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2021 23:26:21 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Apr 2021 23:26:21 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 02D929CB04; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:26:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E21E9C73A; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:26:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 759CC9C723; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta31p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta31p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.31]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 937959C722 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep31p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20210406232554.WTNS10680.nsstlfep31p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:54 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudejiedgvddvucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecuogfgmhhpthihufhusghjvggtthculddutddmnecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqpdhrtghpthhtohepoehtuhhhshesthhuhhhsrdhorhhgqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 10 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.420) id 5FE6CD141D103EC5 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:54 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 136NPskn049155 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 136NPrJm049152 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 09:25:53 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] (no subject) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, M Douglas McIlroy wrote: > I have been a loyal nonmember of ACM ever since the CACM was converted > from a journal to a magazine. Usenix didn't strike quite such a decisive > blow when it abandoned Computing Systems. ;login: remains as a Cheshire > grin. It remains to be seen whether I'll continue to scan it in its > non-tactile form. I quit the ACM when they jacked up their fees to the point of being unaffordable (and refused to justify it when asked); that, and they were no longer relevant since I stopped working in academia and went to industry instead. Same story with ACS and IEEE (although they made for useful tax deductions). -- Dave