From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31785 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2023 02:07:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Feb 2023 02:07:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5A543124; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 12:07:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from nsstlmta25p.bpe.bigpond.com (nsstlmta25p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308FD4228E for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 12:07:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.24.4]) by nsstlfep25p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20230225020703.JVMH6557.nsstlfep25p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:07:03 +1100 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrudekgedggeduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuuffpveftpgfvgffnuffvtfetpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucegtddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhgfgggtsehttddttddtredvnecuhfhrohhmpeffrghvvgcujfhorhhsfhgrlhhluceouggrvhgvsehhohhrshhfrghllhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepkeeiteejueeuhfefgeeuvdduieefvedugfevtdffkefhffejkefhuddtteehtefhnecukfhppeduuddtrddugedurdduleefrddvfeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheprghnvghurhhinhdrhhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddutddrudeguddrudelfedrvdeffedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegurghvvgeshhhorhhsfhgrlhhlrdhorhhgpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepthhuhhhssehtuhhhshdrohhrghdprhgvvhfkrfeptghpvgdquddutddqudeguddqudelfedqvdeffedrnhhsfidrrghsphdrthgvlhhsthhrrgdrnhgvthdpghgvohfkrfeptegfpdfovfetjfhoshhtpehnshhsthhlrhhguddvphdqshhvtg X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean X-RG-VS-CLASS: clean Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (5.8.812) id 6392ADA20EBAA567 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:07:03 +1100 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 31P272Mx088522 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:07:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 31P271A6088519 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:07:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 13:07:01 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID-Hash: TX2BOXWSCLXKJSWAEDWJ45Q3OYYTD4SK X-Message-ID-Hash: TX2BOXWSCLXKJSWAEDWJ45Q3OYYTD4SK X-MailFrom: dave@horsfall.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the SGS (System Generation Software) and COFF (Common Object File Format) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 23 Feb 2023, Paul Winalski wrote: > a.out was, as object file formats go, a throwback to the stone age from > the get-go. Even the most primitive of IBM's link editors for > System/360 supported arbitrary naming of object file sections and the > ability for the programmer to arrange them in whatever order they > wished. a.out's restriction to three sections (.text, .data, .bss) did > manage to get the job done, and even (with ZMAGIC) could support > demand-paged virtual memory, but only just. That may be so, but those guys didn't exactly have the resources of IBM behind them... And I wonder how many people here know the significance of the "407" magic number? -- Dave