From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21885 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2023 20:52:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jul 2023 20:52:57 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4D442A1D; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from clamta09.bpe.bigpond.com (clamta09.bpe.bigpond.com [203.42.22.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D39040BF9 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from claprdcmr05 by claprdomr09 with esmtp (envelope-from ) id 1qNJag-000AmM-1I for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:38 +1000 Received: from [110.141.193.233] (helo=aneurin.horsfall.org) by claprdcmr05 with esmtp (envelope-from ) id 1qNJag-0009D3-0x for tuhs@tuhs.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:38 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 36MKqarN065346 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 36MKqZ7h065343 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:52:33 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) X-GPG-Public-Key: http://www.horsfall.org/gpgkey.pub X-GPG-Fingerprint: 05B4 FFBC 0218 B438 66E0 587B EF46 7357 EF5E F58B X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-tce-ares-id: e{9387b2c4-baa4-45f1-a31c-b792ee1ff150}1 X-tce-spam-action: no action X-tce-spam-score: 0.0 X-Cm-Envelope: MS4xfOzcfIjGP2wjhG8RNPizlmjtsLRWXIuG3Al03Z9Yrnyrf/O7bm8cQW+gsNJfZidqMb3hpDqgdkcez85rQuBMc45SEVIC1SY1gfPrGkelzm1Lmv5rui6A np0L3/Ictko+vH6cqDvUl/FIdnZ73GUv+xPRypmB42YPCKET3O8p8eIg X-Cm-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=A7CqfYaG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=64bc4196 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:117 a=tp40vz5QK/dVXQmd7GLw7w==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ws7JD89P4LkA:10 a=8A63JBlhzNytnjNwX-YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ZXulRonScM0A:10 Message-ID-Hash: 7TS7A7OAMW5DM6XYJFQWODFEV4POQNPO X-Message-ID-Hash: 7TS7A7OAMW5DM6XYJFQWODFEV4POQNPO X-MailFrom: dave@horsfall.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, Rich Salz wrote: > (Compare to procmail, where the quote was "seen the source? Gaah, my > eyes are melting.") The Procmail source is so bad that even the author has abandoned it; it's likely to be riddled with security holes too, so you'd be nuts to use it. > I enjoyed watching this, thanks. I agree with the other comment "what, > nothing about security?" Sendmail did enable the first Internet worm :) Like C, Sendmail was not really designed with secure coding in mind. -- Dave