From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c31eea39 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 07:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E2A079B856; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:20:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CE49B729; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:20:25 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="OBaDhoso"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AFA309B729; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:20:23 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 403 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:20:23 AEST Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (pb-smtp1.pobox.com [64.147.108.70]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17C4D94BBA for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:20:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C99315D748; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:13:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=date:from :reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type; s=sasl; bh=UNn8ClYTEnnDTMhiDhIlZiv5C xg=; b=OBaDhosoYQs+XfB7Qd8qaBGC0SN557ZxbL86TUl1B30+JZMhUtLtd0vmZ wQ5jcUpYYze32NV+KybKgyZ29i0iXehA367JyISLz/zH1//cbSxL59Sk/voTnctD /O5rfxria134d0u1cQV222TY2V0v4RYN47VwDeplWHZ4OPzwDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=date:from :reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=eYeSWLhl1uGhH4T4uyM yqb/a9uKBNmzkSWBYuBOJem2azjKDMCMEqeRLxqC5tRLihdjGuuaKE33MFjszMuD RMxt54oUef4JzQ6dWV61cMBQSi8vStfRoTPwcF8mG/VsFwBMmQXRPuNXwKW1Tgvq VZns0uVV65mf9wC37Jzwom20= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0315D747; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unknown [24.206.186.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B4C015D746; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 00:13:35 -0700 (MST) From: Ed Carp X-X-Sender: erc@seddev1 To: Dave Horsfall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Pobox-Relay-ID: E6E9ABA0-A606-11E9-99E9-46F8B7964D18-68243408!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday, 386BSD! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: ecarp@lsisoft.net Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, space aliens made Dave Horsfall write: > 386BSD was released on this day in 1992, when William and Lynne Jolitz > started the Open Source movement; well, that's what my notes say, and Not really. Bill and Lynne kept very tight control over releases - the word "open" didn't really apply to 386BSD, and there were many Open Source projects well under way before 386BSD was even conceived. Under Linux, the process was a lot more "open", even democratic. One of the reasons I abandoned 386BSD early on and started working on Linux was because I (as well as many others) were very frustrated at the complete contol the Jolitz's exercised over 386BSD, and limited releases to one every six months - much slower than was generally considered to be acceptable for the long list of bugs and fixes in the pipeline.