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From: robert@timetraveller.org (Robert Brockway)
Subject: [TUHS] Who is running their own mail server and what do you run?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 09:17:12 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1709210903320.3189@sirius.opentrend.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83CD6BB4-9617-47F9-A87E-55C447D5F1CC@bitblocks.com>

On Wed, 20 Sep 2017, Bakul Shah wrote:

Hi all.  I've lurked here for a long time but hardly posted.  I've only 
used *nix for 25 years which makes me a n00b in these parts.

I run my own mail server and use trusted RBLs, Greylisting (GL) and 
SpamAssassin (SA) in that order as I did many years ago.

I do some additional tricks like requring the sending MTA to hold the 
connection open for (IIRC) 10 seconds before I will accept traffic.  This 
drives up spammers costs (and everyone elses :( ) but definitely helps.

> I use postfix + postgrey. But greylisting doesn't seem to work
> any more. I detect spam using various scripts. As you put it,

I'd suggest GL works but not for the same reason it originally 
worked.

GL is great in combination with an RBL.  GL gives the RBLs time to get 
updated so that by the time they get around to resending there is a better 
chance the RBL will block the incoming spam.  It's reall the combination 
of greylisting and the RBLs which helps.

Perhaps not surprisingly the nature of spam has changed over the 20 years 
that I've run my own MTAs (Sendmail and then Postfix).  IMHO spam was most 
difficult to deal with perhaps 5-10 years ago.  It seems to me that the 
enforcement against organised crime online in recent years has reduced 
spam a lot.  IIRC I read that in recent years most spam was coming from 
only 7 or 8 organisations.  When one of those was shutdown some years ago 
I believe I saw a sudden drop in spam.

SA is probably of limited value today but it still catches some spam for 
me.  I never really bothered using a Bayesian filter inside SA or 
standalone.

FWIW I spend virtually no time maintaining my MTA.  I've been using the 
same approach for about 10 years and if anything I get far less spam than 
I did in 2007.

Cheers,

Rob


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20 23:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-20 16:25 Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 16:39 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 19:59   ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 21:26     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 23:17     ` Robert Brockway [this message]
2017-09-21  0:00       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  0:08         ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  0:55           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  1:52             ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  4:14               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  5:30                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 15:43                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-21  0:38         ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  1:30         ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-09-21  1:57           ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  3:04             ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  5:20               ` Grant Taylor
     [not found]       ` <20170921042528.E12C5156E523@mail.bitblocks.com>
2017-09-21  4:45         ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  4:58           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  5:34             ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 15:49               ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 16:46 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-20 17:01   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 17:39   ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 22:54   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-09-20 16:59 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-20 17:10 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 17:14   ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 18:15   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 23:45     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-20 22:54   ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 23:31     ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 23:57     ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-21  0:02       ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-21  1:08     ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-21 12:36       ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 17:47 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 17:54 ` Rico Pajarola
2017-09-20 17:57 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 18:22   ` William Pechter
2017-09-20 19:11     ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 19:25     ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 19:54       ` William Pechter
2017-09-20 19:09   ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 23:26   ` Michael Parson
2017-09-20 18:21 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 18:51 ` Corey Lindsly
2017-09-20 20:13 ` jason-tuhs
2017-09-20 22:25   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-20 23:06 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21 12:40 ` Ben Greenfield
2017-09-23  9:12 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-21 20:05 Norman Wilson
2017-09-21 21:02 ` Grant Taylor

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