From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: dot@dotat.at (Tony Finch) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:01:57 +0000 Subject: [TUHS] Windows roots and Unix influence (was Re: Happy birthday, Ken Thompson!) In-Reply-To: References: <20180204091435.GA22841@indra.papnet.eu> <00d001d39ddc$a069a380$e13cea80$@ronnatalie.com> <0B2B7C84-12D8-49A6-BAA3-BD434823D41D@cheswick.com> Message-ID: Dan Cross wrote: > > [...] But much VMS, whatever HP minicomputer stuff was floating around > (MPE?) and all VM/CMS (I guess it was actually VM/ESA by that time) > disappeared; VAXstations, serial terminals and 3179G's were all replaced > by PCs running Windows and the users were replaced by these smiling > robots. It was weird. > > Somehow, most of the Unix people managed to escape. I wonder why? [...] > > I wonder, too, if Unix networking didn't play a major role. I have this dim > sense that NT was designed for a world in which it was still assumed that > the OSI suite was going to win the networking wars. [...] I was in my late teens around that time but I got the impression that in the early to mid 1990s when this shift was happening, networking was moving to IP and all the IP software was Unix - certainly it was the only option if you wanted to run network services at the scale of a University or ISP. At the same time Windows was all about workgroup-scale office networking. I don't think their network protocols were OSI but Exchange was based on X.400 and to this day still only does Internet mail grudgingly. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode Lundy, Fastnet, Irish Sea: West or southwest 4 or 5, increasing 6 at times. Slight or moderate, occasionally rough except in Irish Sea, becoming very rough later in southwest Fastnet. Occasional rain. Good, occasionally poor.