From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 922de01f for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 12:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5D242A2082; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:17:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F059E883; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:17:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 50BA19E882; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:17:11 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1433 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:17:10 AEST Received: from ppsw-31.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-31.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.131]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A45D594A37 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 22:17:10 +1000 (AEST) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://help.uis.cam.ac.uk/email-scanner-virus Received: from grey.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.57.57]:50598) by ppsw-31.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.137]:25) with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) id 1gU9GN-000uVw-JX (Exim 4.91) (return-path ); Tue, 04 Dec 2018 11:53:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:53:14 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Clem Cole In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday, John Backus! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Clem Cole wrote: > Fortran2018 (which was release just last week BTW) is hardly the language I > learned in the early 1970s (Fortran-IV) or my father a dozen or so years > previous to me. One of the more obscure books I have is about "the F programming language" http://www.fortran.com/F/ which is the modern subset of Fortran 95. A curious thing about F is that it doesn't include DO WHILE; my understanding is that there was a faction of the Fortran standardization committee which was firmly against WHILE, and that was the faction that defined the F subset. I can't now find any information about this argument / controversy, but my link archive includes https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=800168.811545 Brenda Baker's paper on converting Fortran IV programs to ratfor. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch http://dotat.at/ Irish Sea: Southwest 5, backing east, then becoming cyclonic later, 5 to 7, perhaps gale 8 later. Slight or moderate, occasionally rough later. Rain or showers. Good, occasionally poor.