From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 9020 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2021 23:23:17 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2021 23:23:17 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 599A89C8A5; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 09:23:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8159C864; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 09:22:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6C89E9C864; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 09:22:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minun.buric.co (minun.buric.co [51.15.8.196]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00069C861 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 09:22:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minun.buric.co (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6146C35C0E7A; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 01:12:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minun.buric.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EDE35C0E58 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: mary@sd-119843.dedibox.fr To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20210702213648.GW817@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] [tuhs] The Unix shell: a 50-year view X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, 2 Jul 2021, Henry Bent wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 17:38, Larry McVoy wrote: > >> As I started reading it I found plenty to disagree with in the first few >> paragraphs but they completely lost me at "After all, moving from System >> V init scripts to systemd has arguably improvedthe Linux boot sequence." >> >> Um, no, just, no. > > After rattling around in the back of a train car with nothing but my > thoughts, I emerged and said: > > "systemd is a pox on our way of life" > > and then promptly rolled over and went back to sleep. > > -Henry > The Linux distro I use does use systemd but I can ignore it and go on with my life as if it were still running sysvinit. So it's not that big a deal to me. I'd prefer that they kept sysvinit, but eh. What's that saying? "Those who fail to understand Unix are condemned to recreate it, poorly" ? -uso.