From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4202 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2022 01:47:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jan 2022 01:47:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 887929D049; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:47:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905409CF06; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:47:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 764C89CF06; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:47:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minun.buric.co (minun.buric.co [51.15.8.196]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235959CE58 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 11:47:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minun.buric.co (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A93DB35C10B7; Sun, 2 Jan 2022 02:47:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minun.buric.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECD435C0F84 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:47:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:47:11 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: mary@sd-119843.dedibox.fr To: TUHS main list In-Reply-To: <20220102012033.GB7055@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <202201012000.201K0Fd31610896@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220102001244.GF10078@mcvoy.com> <20220102012033.GB7055@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] roff(7) [ and other related stuff ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sat, 1 Jan 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Sat, Jan 01, 2022 at 08:04:58PM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > >> Why use C syntax? What was wrong with Fortran, Lisp, or Cobol syntax, >> extended to do what you wanted? > > I'm almost speechless. My progression was Basic, Pascal, C (and later > Fortran, Lisp, no Cobol, I did an Ada Compiler so Ada I guess). Then > on to awk, perl, tcl, I tried to like C++ but couldn't, tried to like > Rust, Go, D, and couldn't. Kinda sounds like me. Classic Microsoft BASIC, then QBASIC which was a mutant freak dialect with structs, functions and stuff... started learning C++ and then moved to C. I rarely use anything these days but C and once in a blue moon QBASIC for something quick and dirty. > If you think any of those other languages remotely approach the elegance > of C, I just don't know what to say. This. I think it blends terseness, cleanness, simplicity and ease of use in just the right quantities in a way no language before or since has really been able to muster. Its only real weakness to me is that it isn't very good at string handling (the reason I sometimes kitbash stuff in BASIC still). -uso.