From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3640 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2022 02:21:58 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Feb 2022 02:21:58 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B3AFA9D0C2; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:21:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3254F951B7; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:21:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C6CFE951B7; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:21:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minun.buric.co (minun.buric.co [51.15.8.196]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D15C9518E for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:21:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minun.buric.co (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9948735C11DE; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minun.buric.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3CF35C1190 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:21:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:21:33 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: mary@sd-119843.dedibox.fr To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-Reply-To: <685fd0dc-e959-c7c1-0110-c8f55021b752@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Message-ID: References: <54965199-5023-4F99-AF27-8615E319E302@cfcl.com> <20220127015505.GC10568@netmeister.org> <20220129023641.GL16452@mcvoy.com> <685fd0dc-e959-c7c1-0110-c8f55021b752@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [TUHS] FYI: Internet Old Farts Club X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 1/29/22 1:48 AM, Andy Kosela wrote: >> I can speak only for myself, but I love that TUHS/COFF mailing lists are >> still _the real_ mailing lists managed the old school way. > > Usenet is still a thing that I use daily. As do I. > >> I hate all those modern web 2.0 technologies with extremely bloated js >> stacks which you can only use if you have the latest version of Chrome. > I too dislike what the Web 2.0 world has turned into. > > I believe that it's possible for web pages to by dynamic via AJAX without all > the bloat. Sadly this isn't done. The solution to bloat has, sadly, tended to be "throw more CPU/RAM/hard drive at it". That's one big reason WordPerfect 5.0 on a 486 is faster than a modern word processor on a recent i7. >> This is probably one of the last places on the Internet that is still >> preserving one of its core ideas in the 80s/90s -- plain text >> communication. It has been slowly dying in the last 15 years. Text based >> Internet of the 80s and 90s has slowly been replaced by binary protocols >> and image based interaction with a computer. > > Usenet. IRC. ;) > I'm not planing on discontinuing using mailing lists or Usenet any time soon. > Despite the fact that they have migrated from unencrypted to encrypted > communications. Even my MUA / NUA is using encrypted connections to the > servers. But /my/ /personal/ /interaction/ with my MUA / NUA hasn't changed. I still use the same software, in many cases, I've used since the 1990s. -uso.