I guess this is the best place to jump in: I've been working for some time on a stupid idea, and it involves both the System V code (in the form of Solaris, although I've been attempting to theseus it out) and the BSDs. One thing I've said a few times elsewhere is - if you want to do something daft, not only are you on your own, but people will actively not only dissuade but derail you from trying to do it. I felt the best way to get what I wanted was to try to isolate the kernel and libc (and perhaps bootloader) from one of the BSDs and attempt to make them buildable through a system of plain makefiles, to integrate into the rest of my concept (this also includes, fwiw but unrelated, clang). If you're familiar with Linux From Scratch - you can probably see what I'm doing, although it's not at all using the same code. A lot of the time I keep running into "we don't want mere mortals working at this level" type responses. Yeah, I know it's daft. But I still want to do it. ;p In fact, back in the Linux 2.4 days, I *had* a proof of concept. But it ran on Linux and used a lot of "ersatz because copyright" which is no longer needed (e.g., because ksh and CDE weren't available). I want my own flavor of Unix, basically... 🤪 The apparent death of System V is a double-edged sword for my idea. It means it's all the more useless - but in becoming *useless*, it also ceases to be *pointless*, in my estimation. -uso.