From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AD92B612 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 17:53:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5894312F; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 01:53:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minun.buric.co (minun.buric.co [51.15.8.196]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCEC42AA0 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2024 01:53:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minun.buric.co (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C618435C0EA5; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minun.buric.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BB535C0BE0 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:55:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Nickolas X-X-Sender: mary@sd-119843.dedibox.fr To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20240613153529.GO8271@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: References: <73819d1a-395a-4b74-a20c-0123fbed56bd@technologists.com> <20240613153529.GO8271@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-ID-Hash: QXUQ6A2BH7P36BG3VQFNWEPPEN34MDFO X-Message-ID-Hash: QXUQ6A2BH7P36BG3VQFNWEPPEN34MDFO X-MailFrom: usotsuki@buric.co X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' ??? The Register List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, Larry McVoy wrote: > "The new alternative does no such sleight of hand. Instead, it just gets the > systemd daemon to run the command for you, using a special form of the existing > systemd-run command." > > Sounds like a new path for exploits. We'll see if Mr Systemd has to eat > some crow in the future. Said by a guy who _hates_ systemd. systemd is the thing that should not be. If I had successfully gotten my project up (trying to get a standalone kernel/libc/clang build environment up and running - either Linux/musl or NetBSD) it would run a rewrite of the SysV init system (not "sysvinit", that's GPL). -uso.