From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: reed@reedmedia.net (Jeremy C. Reed) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [TUHS] Tree of late BSD releases In-Reply-To: <539DB1D4.3080909@aueb.gr> References: <539DB1D4.3080909@aueb.gr> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Jun 2014, Diomidis Spinellis wrote: > First, consider this widely reproduced BSD family tree [2]. It has > 4.4BSD-Encumbered derive from a line that includes Net/1, which was > freely redistributable. Wouldn't it be clearer to create two > branches, one with distributions free of AT&T code (4.3 BSD Net/1, 4.3 > BSD Net/2, 4.4 BSD Lite1, 4.4 BSD Lite2) and one with full > distributions (4.4 BSD, ...)? I don't have any preference on that. > On which side would Tahoe and Reno stand? Tahoe included both the proprietary code and the code which could "be freely redistributed". The same with Reno, which was also "within the usual licensing constraints" (as it still had the proprietary code). > Also, the same tree [2] shows 4.4 BSD having as its ancestor 4.3 BSD > Net/2, whereas another tree depicted on Wikipedia [3] has shows 4.4 > BSD and 4.3 BSD Net/2 having as their ancestor 4.3 BSD Reno. What's > the correct genealogy? Note that Net/2 was not a complete or ready-to-use system, so a better genealogy (than those two) may be like: 4.3BSD Reno | \ | \ | 4.3BSD NET/2 | / | / 4.4BSD Alpha > Finally, I have a conflict with release dates. Wikipedia gives the > following dates for Tahoe and Net/1 [4]: > > 4.3 BSD Tahoe June 1988 Announced in June 1988 (see admin/postings/4BSD/INDEX) but even users outside of Berkeley reported bugs specifically against "Tahoe" source tree as early as at least May 1987 (see admin/bugs/4.3BSD-tahoe/). > 4.3 BSD Net/1 June 1989 That date is in McKusick's open sources chapter, but the "Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow" article says Spring 1988. It was announced in November/December 1988 (see admin/postings/4BSD/V1/73 and the /admin/postings/4BSD/INDEX). (930108.oppose.txt also says was distributed in 1988.) (Two Salus books also mention that it was announced at the BSD Workshop in Nov. 1988 to be available.) As for dates for the files, they were probably still updated even after initially released (which you can see in other releases too).