From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 18203f5b for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 20:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CEE389BCFE; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 06:01:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF09948CE; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 06:00:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 07712948CE; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 06:00:53 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 974 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2019 06:00:52 AEST Received: from neener.bl.org (neener.bl.org [50.116.26.109]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A92D9484D for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2019 06:00:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from neener.bl.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neener.bl.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x95JicEG004004 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mparson@localhost) by neener.bl.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id x95JicvX020486 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: neener.bl.org: mparson owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Parson To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <201909132024.x8DKObEP013266@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <463d5cc4-9bef-9ac3-a680-a5161d664dc1@aueb.gr> <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909160552.x8G5qBYK025195@freefriends.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (NEB 202 2017-01-01) X-Marks-The-Spot: --->X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (neener.bl.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 05 Oct 2019 14:44:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" (pardon the reply on an oldish thread, I've not read this group in a while) On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, Clem Cole wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:52 AM wrote: > >> I use the standalone Info reader (named info) if I want to look at the >> Info output. >> > Fair enough, but be careful, while I admit I have not looked in a while, > info(gnu) relies on emacs keybindings and a number of very emacs'ish things. > Every time I have tried to deal with it, I have unprogram my fingers and > reset them to emacs. > > If it would have used more(1) [or even less(1)] then I would not be as > annoyed. > Unix had fine tools [man(1), more(1), et al] and rms and friends felt the > need to replace them with ITS-like programs. A few years ago, I was introduced to pinfo[0] for reading info pages, it's more like using the lynx browser to read info docs rather than the emacs keybindings. -- Michael Parson Pflugerville, TX KF5LGQ [0] http://pinfo.sourceforge.net