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From: segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Chaosnet in v8
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:23:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ao__2y_E3CCPWV_dmc_2_4lqciv362bHnsxfIFqAu2EoDfs8MZs3uLLfc6TV-ATmljBN5APkH2AxXaZ-G7X3dK4s15gseTM69XSTEt3gb5U=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202404101646.43AGkxuc018573@freefriends.org>

On Wednesday, April 10th, 2024 at 9:46 AM, arnold@skeeve.com <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:

> John Floren via TUHS tuhs@tuhs.org wrote:
> 
> > I've been doing some research on Lisp machines and came across an
> > interesting tidbit: there was Chaosnet support in Unix v8, e.g.
> > https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V8/usr/sys/chunix/chaos.c
> > 
> > Does anyone remember why that went in? My first guess would be for
> > interoperability with the Symbolics users at Bell Labs (see Bromley's
> > "Lisp Lore", 1986), but that's just speculation.
> > 
> > john
> 
> 
> Didn't BSD have Chaosnet support? It wouldn't suprise me to learn that
> it was just left over from when Research imported 4.1 BSD.
> 
> Arnold

Dan Cross's note on the providence of these files:

> The following files were found on Mountain Avenue.  I understood
> that they all came from the final Bell Labs Plan 9 file server

So allegedly straight from Murray Hill.

If it helps trace this, many of the Chaos-related files contain copyrights regarding Nirvonics, Inc. and with authorship attributed to Kurt Gollhardt.

These copyright notices are in extant V8 and V10 sources on the archive (and some backed up headers in some of the V9 artifacts.)

I can't find a whole lot on Nirvonics otherwise, but looks like Kurt was also involved in another UNIX-based experiment regarding "Headturn" studying language capabilities in infants: https://open.library.ubc.ca/media/stream/pdf/831/1.0051436/1 

- Matt G.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-10 14:26 [TUHS] " John Floren via TUHS
2024-04-10 14:35 ` [TUHS] " Lars Brinkhoff
2024-04-10 16:46 ` arnold
2024-04-10 18:23   ` segaloco via TUHS [this message]
2024-04-10 15:11 Douglas McIlroy
2024-04-10 21:12 ` Rob Pike
2024-04-10 21:17   ` Dave Horsfall
2024-04-15 16:22     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2024-04-15 17:25       ` Sergio Pedraja
2024-04-16 19:07         ` Marcus Clark

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