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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=9/90, host=mpv2-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=9/90, refid=2.7.2:2019.11.13.210017:17:9.975, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __TO_IN_SUBJECT2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_NAME_BODY, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_DOLLAR, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1000_1099, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday Morris worm [ really programming education ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/13/19 1:02 PM, Jon Steinhart wrote: > At the K-12 level, the stage is set by combination of the "everybody > must learn to code" curriculum with "no child left behind". School > administrators dispense with any critical thinking about the value of > the curriculum in order to chase grant dollars. In my experience as a school board member, it's not grant dollars so much as the amount of control the state exerts over the curriculum. The state dictates the material and content that is taught. For AP classes, like AP computer science, the College Board creates the courses and decides what material is included. And in most cases, especially AP classes and core classes where there are end-of-course proficiency requirements, the material on those standardized tests dictates how the course is taught. This is off-topic at this point. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/