From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d856f531 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 03:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C86C893D25; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:08:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F6A93D23; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:07:38 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=mhorton-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.i=@mhorton-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.b="MkmbfZxT"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C8DFF93D23; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:07:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com (mail-pg1-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27B2E93D21 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:07:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id v2so1892888pge.13 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mhorton-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=vekk+RNuyW/vjyQlS+tjGxN1b8eQ/zP0bzxl/atflQA=; b=MkmbfZxTo3BvC1DUZbTc8MmzLcqR5xQ2/NEn5MOTA5+y3ewHw+O+CAqC2KKuTXKiSc gvtzyp9SpNJXWDiBUN6rHfW/QZc+QKRWI9CSGO6BP23jUCqB8SNRu7wGXVDBT1y+pdyR yUr4fB6hGlUUQw0ZHLz+stIc7QXj1NXQ/0ySmN7gPL1tXipgV4xDEeJ0GSx9iDxNFNkG fo9t6rwPUcDOjG/69cNY0vocYnBlrjucKK7rnSZuytzbcZ/2/CQuHJRn5YRcCRvIHlKz /aRuHtDnAbrA4wl/x+Ka5sAvCtU6kqWxAx4KenzTE3pxHp7d6m71Emc5baZBvowTs6G5 cx4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=vekk+RNuyW/vjyQlS+tjGxN1b8eQ/zP0bzxl/atflQA=; b=Y/fMWrIKO+o3FQxPUxooZt+mb3DNVTnCUwCB2pMnH58RT0zfiwrfUBIdhPgCpg3DMr PLqIFKTbt4PbtE7qIMH4IJYoI9/PJIBEjDCSgUnYElyR8EIRQCN9GC59TqFT0pPNbu2q QhOQZPyluQ5yCvVjK6rl9wU+keNnjzPGF+B1Yg95AiPLnX2KJrKf58ukmnrPwo2JOo9G 2DF59jW0NXkyUVNvPILvVF5zSRJnX9+owLGEr6LE1C8lh/6aLSHnkED2xocDIfulE6Zf Q5/8f1XQb3gtfJqp1iQRtHwrP1bObQzJxB64Iumzm2H9cfFdjkB/po96kRobtXHCQoLR NFig== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW27CU0gQYJu6lvoj0zGqtvUqxiHlTB6JxJz4CJsxuDQffy+ty1 qHnVy/23rAjaKdRRGJbWV/HnWthtfRM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwHsRQ2hnX3OH9Ik2sD/OFWmVPJ1tfa9X9D8T7fckGBclbUhLhzzcJE7x/Qk/Kv7zKocQ08ww== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8615:: with SMTP id p21mr12761505pfn.98.1555816055559; Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (ip72-197-202-72.sd.sd.cox.net. [72.197.202.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c17sm11690977pfd.76.2019.04.20.20.07.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:34 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <201904202257.x3KMvRQ1011077@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20190421002212.2E1861AF502@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> From: Mary Ann Horton Gmail Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190421002212.2E1861AF502@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [TUHS] 516-TSS, was re: Joe Condon X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" The Honeywell 516 was the basis for the ARPANET IMP, which later became the ARPANET TIP (on a 316 by then.)  The IMP was the router that held the ARPANET together, the TIP an enhanced version that allowed terminals to telnet to hosts on the net.  This version of the 516 didn't run anything like UNIX. Is it possible he got access via the ARPANET?  Or that somehow his access got confused with the ARPANET?     Mary Ann On 4/20/19 5:22 PM, Dennis Boone wrote: > > The page says that Joe "was exposed to UNIX on the Honeywell 516 > > machines in the early 1970s." This seems wrong to me. We did have a > > 516, but it ran an experimental virtual memory system called 516-TSS. > > I lived on this system and still have some of the octal instruction > > opcodes burned into my brain-ROM. > > As a Prime 50-Series buff, I'd be interested in knowing more about this > 516-TSS. Pointers appreciated, if there are any bits, documentation, or > war stories lurking about. > > De